Such as this N4:
Thanks.
John
Caboose Cupola Numbers
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 02:29 PM | 26664 |
| John Frantz Conductor  Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 156 | Caboose Cupola Numbers I've seen pictures on cabooses with 3 digit numbers stenciled on the ends of the cupola. What were these for?
Such as this N4:
Thanks. John __________________ John Frantz York, PA Crossroads of the Maryland & Pennsylania, Pennsylvania & Western Maryland Railroads. Last edited by John Frantz (Tuesday, 02/21 - 02:32 PM) |
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 03:28 PM | 26665 |
| Ben Snyder Brakeman  Joined: 20 Jun 2010 Posts: 94 | Looks like the last three digits of the car number... Last edited by Ben Snyder (Tuesday, 02/21 - 03:28 PM) |
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 10:16 PM | 26666 |
| Harrison Martin Conductor  Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 233 | Most railroads had a prefix on their caboose numbers, Santa Fe was 999---, with the last 3 numbers being the car number which was painted on the cupola end. I guess on Conrail cupola cabooses the prefix was 18---. __________________
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 11:12 PM | 26667 |
| Sean McDonnell Trainmaster  Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 1213 | Conrail's coupola cabooses were all over the place, Harrison, not just in the 18XXX series. Looking at the pic of the N4 John posted, I get the impression it is not a caboose assigned to a road-freight. I get the feeling this was an oddball unofficial thing that was done by a local crew to help trainmen easily differentiate between two very similar-looking cars assigned to the same terminal. __________________
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 11:22 PM | 26668 |
| Rich Reinhart Engineer  Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 555 | Also has Safety First on the can opener..another local touch |
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| Tuesday, 02/21 - 11:25 PM | 26669 |
| Ryan Kunkle Brakeman  Joined: 23 Jan 2012 Posts: 95 | I agree with Sean. I doubt it ever became part of the "official" painting specs. The font is also not standard and different from the rest of the car. Pretty cool detail though, I hadn't seen this on any CR hacks before. Thanks for sharing. __________________
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 09:30 AM | 26670 |
| Brock Kerchner Trainmaster  Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 1568 | I agree with Sean 100% and I had until now never seen that on a Conrail caboose. __________________
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 10:16 AM | 26671 |
| Patrick Welch Engineer  Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 944 | Im digging the 4 man crew __________________
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 11:49 AM | 26673 |
| Tristan Ashcroft Conductor Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 229 | John, you mention you've seen more than one of these. Any chance they were all nearby each other? It'd be interesting to figure out if one particular shop was numbering cupolas, and if they hung around that area.
In the realm of theoreticals, a reason to stencil a cupola would be if it readily came off during shopping, like the Bowser kits. -not sure if that happened, though- |
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 02:06 PM | 26675 |
| Carl Weber Brakeman Joined: 22 Apr 2008 Posts: 96 | As far as the Santa Fe cabooses were concerned, the ones with a number on the cupola were in "pool service"...nothing to do with swimming pools.. |
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 04:32 PM | 26676 |
| Ed Kapuscinski Super Admin  Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 2757 | If you note the typography, you'll notice that it's different from the "normal" font, which adds even more weight to the theory of being a local modification.
Take a look at the "Safety First" text. I bet that matches up with something on one of the predecessor roads cars. |
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 05:21 PM | 26677 |
| Rodney Woodard Trainmaster Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Posts: 1495 | Speaking of pool service.... http://trainweb.org/screamingeagle/gallery/bn/bn12396.jpg
http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/2/0/8/4208.1230232286.jpg The Western roads made it so simple..... Last edited by Rodney Woodard (Wednesday, 02/22 - 05:28 PM) |
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 06:46 PM | 26678 |
| Harrison Martin Conductor Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 233 | So that's what the "P" on cabooses means!! __________________
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| Wednesday, 02/22 - 10:46 PM | 26682 |
| Rodney Woodard Trainmaster Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Posts: 1495 | Quote Harrison Martin:
So that's what the "P" on cabooses means!! Pool caboose |
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| Russ Swinnerton Trainmaster  Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 1900 | The 21165 has 'pool car' stenciled on the door. __________________
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| Thursday, 02/23 - 12:56 PM | 26685 |
| John Frantz Conductor Joined: 03 Aug 2008 Posts: 156 | Thanks for the thoughts guys. That seems to be the case with it being the last three digits of the car number.
Another example can be found in Page 19 of the Conrail Color Guide. An N5b, 22893, in Nesquehoning, PA on January 12, 1983. The numbers on the cupola are 893. __________________ John Frantz York, PA Crossroads of the Maryland & Pennsylania, Pennsylvania & Western Maryland Railroads. |
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| Sunday, 05/20 - 03:46 PM | 27503 |
| Stephen Twarogowski Conductor  Joined: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 196 | Saw this slide on eBay and this thread came to mind. Any ideas what the RO-23 stands for and why it is painted on both the sides and cupola?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-CR-Conrail-RO-23-N8-Caboose-23293-In-1988-At-Cleveland-OH-/400298881207?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d33ac30b7 Thanks, Steve |
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| Sunday, 05/20 - 04:00 PM | 27504 |
| Rodney Woodard Trainmaster Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Posts: 1495 | Could it be that that cabin car was assigned to Rockport Yard and the yard crew just gave it the RO-23 number? |
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| Sunday, 05/20 - 04:34 PM | 27505 |
| Harrison Martin Conductor Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 233 | Maybe it's similar to the "RS" Stenciling, with "RO" standing for "Repair Order"? Probably not though, since it was done rather neat. __________________
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| Sunday, 05/20 - 05:01 PM | 27506 |
| Stephen Twarogowski Conductor Joined: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 196 | Quote Rodney Woodard:
Could it be that that cabin car was assigned to Rockport Yard and the yard crew just gave it the RO-23 number? That's kind of what I was thinking. Between Roger and Pat, someone has to know for certain (or so I can hope). Steve |
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| Monday, 05/21 - 06:39 AM | 27511 |
| Russ Swinnerton Trainmaster Joined: 07 Feb 2008 Posts: 1900 | Quote Harrison Martin:
Maybe it's similar to the "RS" Stenciling, with "RO" standing for "Repair Order"? Probably not though, since it was done rather neat. The "RS-40" and "RS-41" stencils were for helping to decide what gets scrapped. The RS stands for "Repair / Scrap" and the 40/42 stands for 40 hours or less work to repair or 41 hous or more to repair. __________________
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| Monday, 05/21 - 09:27 PM | 27516 |
| Bruce Kerr Engineer  Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 816 | Im with Rodney.. RO-23 could also be the job that particular caboose was assigned to at the time.. |
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| Tuesday, 05/22 - 05:14 PM | 27520 |
| Patrick Maher Engineer Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 696 | This caboose was assigned to Rockport Yard and 23 was a second trick job that left the yard to switch firms outside the yard itself. So there you go!!!!! |
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| Tuesday, 05/22 - 07:57 PM | 27521 |
| Stephen Twarogowski Conductor Joined: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 196 | Quote Patrick Maher:
This caboose was assigned to Rockport Yard and 23 was a second trick job that left the yard to switch firms outside the yard itself. So there you go!!!!! Awesome. Thanks for confirming! Steve |
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